Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
Hello,
Just wanted to check if there is a new update coming to fix remaining issues with the scenery? There are still plenty of issues after the 1.3 update that needs to be addressed. This is for the MSFS version.
Just wanted to check if there is a new update coming to fix remaining issues with the scenery? There are still plenty of issues after the 1.3 update that needs to be addressed. This is for the MSFS version.
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Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
If you have any issues, please let us know.
Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
There are concrete white bricks on several airstrips. Many islands are partly flooded, with vehicles, trees, beaches etc. covered in water. Multiple vegetation problems across most islands, where areas that should have vegetation are completely missing. On Praslin in particular, you'll see houses with no trees in between them (around the airport). The photoscenery underneath clearly shows there should be trees here. This problem also applies to Mahe and Fregate along with others. See my previous posts for more details. I posted quite a few screenshots pointing out issues. Most of these are not fixed. Building types are also quite off in tons of places (not airports).
Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
Any comments on this from the developer? Are you looking into this?
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Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
We'll consider those points when working on future updates. The scenery is pretty big though. We had to find a good compromise to avoid having to make the scenery unnecessarily expensive.
Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
I understand what you're trying to say, however, this scenery is priced at 30 USD and it's not an excuse for lazy work. As far as I can see it's a dirty conversion of the old Seychelles scenery released back in 2013 for FSX/Prepar3D. In other words I've bought the scenery twice, paying 60 USD for the same scenery. There's nothing new here as far as I can tell, just compatibility with MSFS. Most issues could have been fixed in a few weeks maximum. I've been playing around with devtools at Cousine island. In 30 mins I managed to fix all the issues. This small island had tons of issues like rough coastlines, the beach towards Praslin was partly flooded, two boats were grounded due to missing water along multiple other issues including elevation issues and beachlines stretching up ridges, lack of flattening along the beach etc. Basically I was just drawing polygons to do terraforming, move water lines, "unflood" the beach and fix all the other issues. I even added some more correct buildings to the island. The result was quite amazing given the little effort I put into this. Other major issues are not possible for me to fix without the source files.
Anyways, this really shouldn't be my work as a paying customer. Yes, the addon is big with many islands, but the islands are pretty small. For a professional developer, a couple of weeks' work should have ironed out all bugs and made significant improvements to the scenery as well.
To add to the list, there's also a strange white haze layer present around several islands that can be seen on many of my posted screenshots in the other threads. It's just above sea level. Never seen anything like this in other sceneries. Flickers around some reefs are also present. Also, there's a greenish tint in the ocean for pretty much the entire area. Coastlines are sometimes extremely rough and ugly for many of the smaller islands. Even the major ones as well. Elevation issues, water and beaches creeping up ridges, jaggy and rough water lines, many islands are partly flooded with objects in the water, trees and autogen issues across all islands, white concrete bricks at every airstrip is also present, which I can't fix without the source files, but should be an easy fix with exclusion rectangles. Many reefs are also missing or have been severely restricted. In real life stretch pretty far out of Praslin near the airport. Ugly lines in the photo underneath can also be seen in several places. Generally very poor photo material for most islands that definitely needs some upgrade. Some are worse than others.
To be honest, I actually expected at least some overhauls and upgrades to the scenery for MSFS. Not just a dirty conversion of the old P3D scenery released back in 2013...
PS! Bing maps now have pretty decent aerials covering the entire Seychelles (except a few problem areas), but they're not in the sim yet.
Anyways, this really shouldn't be my work as a paying customer. Yes, the addon is big with many islands, but the islands are pretty small. For a professional developer, a couple of weeks' work should have ironed out all bugs and made significant improvements to the scenery as well.
To add to the list, there's also a strange white haze layer present around several islands that can be seen on many of my posted screenshots in the other threads. It's just above sea level. Never seen anything like this in other sceneries. Flickers around some reefs are also present. Also, there's a greenish tint in the ocean for pretty much the entire area. Coastlines are sometimes extremely rough and ugly for many of the smaller islands. Even the major ones as well. Elevation issues, water and beaches creeping up ridges, jaggy and rough water lines, many islands are partly flooded with objects in the water, trees and autogen issues across all islands, white concrete bricks at every airstrip is also present, which I can't fix without the source files, but should be an easy fix with exclusion rectangles. Many reefs are also missing or have been severely restricted. In real life stretch pretty far out of Praslin near the airport. Ugly lines in the photo underneath can also be seen in several places. Generally very poor photo material for most islands that definitely needs some upgrade. Some are worse than others.
To be honest, I actually expected at least some overhauls and upgrades to the scenery for MSFS. Not just a dirty conversion of the old P3D scenery released back in 2013...
PS! Bing maps now have pretty decent aerials covering the entire Seychelles (except a few problem areas), but they're not in the sim yet.
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Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
We're looking into it.
Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
Sounds very good. Don't rush, take your time to do it properly. The whole scenery needs some more love. Bug fixes, more level of details, 3D buildings etc. Also, feel free to ask if you want me to expand on certain issues/problems
I guess Asobo will update the aerials for the entire Seychelles at some point with much higher resolution. It's already in Bing Maps, but not in the sim yet.
Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
Nothing new? No further updates planned since 1.5?
Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
I have a suggestion for the seychelles product for P3Dv5. I enjoy these islands, although in default, without this package installed, there are trees covering the entire islands and the landscape looks quite good, its just the airport isnt, when I add your product, I lose alot of trees and the photoreal isnt that good, although I enjoy the airport very much. Is there a way please the islands can be updated so the trees cover the islands as they do in default and the photoreal updated to be more of higher quality please?
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Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
Sorry, we have no plans on updating existing P3D products. The P3D market is decreasing lately, and we need to evaluate the situation with the new P3Dv6 before we can consider updates for existing products.
That doesn't mean there won't be new P3D products, though. For example, the new upcoming Maldives scenery will be available for P3D as well as for MSFS and X-Plane.
That doesn't mean there won't be new P3D products, though. For example, the new upcoming Maldives scenery will be available for P3D as well as for MSFS and X-Plane.
Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
I really think this scenery deserves a remake now in 2024 to bring it up to latest standards including better aerials, details, 3D models, etc. P3D is pretty much dead and abandoned by most developers, so I think MSFS is the way to go. There's always the possibility to convert the scenery to P3Dv6 and X-Plane later on.
Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
...edited by moderator...sibbe83 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:23 amI really think this scenery deserves a remake now in 2024 to bring it up to latest standards including better aerials, details, 3D models, etc. P3D is pretty much dead and abandoned by most developers, so I think MSFS is the way to go. There's always the possibility to convert the scenery to P3Dv6 and X-Plane later on.
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Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
Did you actually register in our support forum to advertise your own products?
Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
I aint advertising anything, I was just getting back to someone to give him an answer. I dont sell anything, its freely available. It really brings the default sim textures up to 3rd party payware level globally. I was able to update your products as well for Seychelles as the airport island isnt up to V5 level of quality, like your previous v5 products are. I do love your products, you said so yourself that you wont be updating older ones for P3D.horst18519 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:41 pmDid you actually register in our support forum to advertise your own products?
I wasnt coming in here to step on toes and advertise goods for sale. Just helping people out.
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Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
Ok, thanks for the clarification.
Re: Seychelles - still lots of issues after 1.3 update
I really do enjoy your products and have many of them. Just installed Mayoette today as I will be reviewing it for Sim Market soon. Please keep supporting P3D with future airports, you are the ONLY developer to release on all 3 platforms and I applaud you guys for doing so, the best devs in my mind for flight sim when there are so many just showing how narrowing they can be by supporting only one, when there are so many community members missing out on awesome products.